I am pissed.
October 16, 2008
I’m pissed.
Today I was at an office shop doing some printing of documents for my business. At a copier was a nice woman with long gray hair. Although she was approximately 20 years older than me, I often feel an instant kinship with women with long gray hair, as if they are in the same long-hair family as me. I instantly think (maybe mistakenly or perhaps judgmentally?) that they were hippies in their younger days and refuse to cut their hair like most older women do for some reason. I for one, will not cut my long hair just because I grow older. I absolutely love to see beautiful long gray hair on a woman.
Anyway, in a long wait for my printing to finish, we began talking. We had a very friendly conversation about my business and my relocating to the area. She told me she knew a girl in the same profession, whom I would get along with great. She would love to introduce us. We talked and talked and I felt a great warm feeling about this person, as if we were instant friends.
About 20 minutes into the conversation, she asks me if I would like to see what she is doing there (what she is printing). Of course I walk over to see and she begins the next sentence with, “Are you a Christian? – I hope?” “Nope. But I would still like to see what you are doing.” Talk about an uneasy feeling in the warm conversation, which instantly turned negative and uncomfortable by that rude and so commonly asked question.
Our conversation pretty much ended at that point. We had nothing more to say to each other. She showed me the stuff she was doing, printing up religious booklets teaching about god. She asked me if I wanted one, and I told her I didn’t think she should waste her hard work on me, I knew I would not be interested in reading it. (I know all I need to know about the Christian religion, thank you very much.)
So there goes another could be nice relationship down the drain because of religion.
First of all, I find the question rude and completely private. To me, it is a philosophical question, the question of life, our souls, why we are here and where we may end up after death. Very complicated in its unknown answer and cannot be answered in a simple “yes” or “no” or named in a certain one religion. I do not call myself any religion, I do not call myself an atheist, as that subscribes to the same name application as do all religions. I am quite spiritual and honestly, that is nobody’s business!
But for some reason, with that imposed question about my personal beliefs about life and souls, I felt a couple of instant reactions: 1) Defensiveness and 2) rage/anger.
First, why do I feel the need to explain myself to this stranger? I felt I needed to explain why I am not a Christian. I felt she was wondering, well then, what are you? I wondered if she thought, therefore, that I am a satanist? Should I have said I am Buddhist, just to provide her a quick answer? However, I am not Buddhist, and I don’t really lie, so that would not have worked for me. It would have been easier to just lie and say I was Christian. We could have kept our nice sweet conversation going and she may actually have introduced me to her friend she thought I would get along with so well (I have yet to be introduced, by the way). But I don’t lie to people. I am an honest, caring, loving person. I care about everyone in the world. I do not judge people. I do things for others. I say hello to strangers on the street. I am compassionate. I never cuss, I have never fought with another person, I donate to charities, I want peace in the world. I am genuinely a good soul if I do say so myself.
I felt I needed to provide her an explanation. I almost began to reply “but I am spiritual” or something, but stopped myself, realizing it is not really necessary or her business. Why do I feel I need to explain myself to people who so rudely impose their view on others? I don’t feel it is appropriate to do that. There is nothing that actually brings out more anger in me than a person coming to my door in the middle of my work day, causing my dogs to bark fanatically and irritatingly, to try and impose their religious views on me.
Angers and enrages me! I can see why most all of the wars of the world are caused by religion! It really brings out some serious anger in an otherwise nonviolent-type person. After someone comes to my door and I have to shoo them away with some excuse (and more recently some angry speeches), I spend hours discussing it with my husband! They have interrupted my day, I can’t go back to work because I am furious, and I have to discuss why I can be so rude to a nice young child of 18 sometimes who I don’t even know, just because they come to my door like that? I am never mean to a person like that! But lately I can be pretty mean and say something rude to a stranger because I have been trying to train myself to be honest rather than saying something that will give the person the idea that they can come back another time. I want them to get the idea that they are not welcome if they are going to try and impose their views on an adult who has spent a large amount of time giving serious thought to the subject, definitely more time than they have it appears. Because if you give the subject some serious thought, a rational person most definitely should come to the same conclusions as I. (If not there yet, then you haven’t given it enough rational thought.)
See how the subject brings out some negative features of my humanity? I suddenly become judgmental – I obviously think that I must be smarter than the Christians because I know that I don’t know. I think that I am more caring and thoughtful than the Christians, because I see day in and day out so-called Christians doing very mean things. I have seen some serious racism in the middle parts of this country by “Christian” people who are living in the “bible belt.” What? It doesn’t make sense. I have seen some terrible things come out of “Christian” people, much worse than I could ever do. But suddenly, when the subject presents itself, I can easily be turned more rude than I ever am just because it angers me so.
I spent my childhood going to church – I am sure because my parents felt it was their social responsibility to make sure we belonged to a church. They often didn’t accompany us, just sent us to Sunday school, probably to have some time to themselves.
I spent much of my young motherhood in uncertainty as to whether I should be making sure my young child was involved in a church. This was due to the upbringing which teaches you that once you know about god and religion, and refuse it, you are definitely in trouble. My Christian sister has at one time told my teenage son that she was worried that since he knew about Christianity and chose not to believe it, he would go to hell. But who told him about it? Her (to my utter anger)! So she imposed this fear onto him. Had she not said that, as per the Christian rule, he would have never known and, therefore, would have been accepted into their heaven because he was unaware and a good person. Oh darn! Now it is too late, he is doomed. Even though he is an awesome thoughtful, caring and compassionate teenager, he is doomed. “God” won’t accept him and will leave this kind boy to burn in hell because he won’t give up his sense of logic, throw his intelligence in the trash, and start praying to the imaginary.
Defend my freedom to believe what I want. Angry at all those who impose on others.
There is so much more that could be said here, but as you can see once again, the subject takes me away from my real work to write this and relieve some of the anger it has caused me. I feel slightly better.

October 16, 2008 at 10:04 am
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October 16, 2008 at 11:22 am
Wow, don’t you love it when you get that question? I completely understand and feel your pain. With types like her, if you’re not a Christian, you are a hell-bound sinner. That’s it. I was raised in a Christian household and for that very reason have decided to completely disassociate myself with the religion. I have recently begun to consider myself and Epicurean Deist and I’ve never felt more peaceful about my faith. You don’t have to explain yourself! And if you do want to, don’t be ashamed. They’re the ones who are supposed to “judge not, lest ye be judged,” right?
October 16, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I discovered your blog through you Twitter profile and it seems I’ll like it. I couldn’t agree more about your view of religion. I hate this kind of need they have of convincing you of their beliefs. It’s so annoying and disrespectful. I don’t go to people trying to make them agree with what I believe and I don’t like others doing it to me. Thinking about this subject makes me remember a time when the mother of a friend of mine what was my religion (them don’t even ask if you have one, people just assume it) and when I answer `no`, she kept staring at me, like I’d had grwn three heads… =/
(sorry if my English is not very good, it`s not my first language and all…)
October 16, 2008 at 1:11 pm
or, how about the question, ‘what church do you go to?’ assuming you are a Christian because what else would you be in NE Texas?
I could rant on and on about this – like attending Chamber of Commerce meetings that started with prayer (prayer? in business meetings?) or losing friends because you change religion – been there done that…
Tawnya @ awomansblog.com
October 16, 2008 at 2:26 pm
welcome to Red States of America. My hometown still starts football games with a prayer. Most business meals like Rotary are going to feature a blessing. I attended a business meeting this week of home builders that had a prayer over the food.
Its no big deal. If you aren’t a Christian, then prayer is harmless teeth flapping. If it gets under your skin, then you should ask why other people’s harmless customs bother you.
As for asking about your religion, most of small town America can go a long time before running into a non-protestant Christian. They forget that anything else can exist. In my own case, I met my first Catholic in the 7th grade and my first Jew at college.
If someone asks if you are Christian, just tell them yes, you are Jehovah’s Witness. That is technically Christian and weird enough that they won’t ask any more ever again.
You can also lie and tell them you are Episcopalian. That is also equally weird to most of them. Nice thing is, you can be Episcopalian and only show up for baptism and death, but we do ask you to contribute to the kitty for beer if you attend Wednesday night church.
Tolerance goes both ways. Don’t scream about other’s intolerance if you haven’t tried any of your own.
Just a contrary view. Ya’ll try not to get hot and bothered about it.
October 17, 2008 at 1:00 am
Very good post – I can certainly relate. I’m Heathen, married into a Christian family. My husband won’t affiliate with any churches because he finds them to be the root of a lot of the problems with Christianity – and he’s totally accepting of my faith. His father – who’s not thrilled, but accepts that I’m not Christian – works for the Baptist churches in the area, and his brother is a Baptist minister. He’s the one I tend to have the most difficulty with. I don’t mind discussing my faith or my beliefs with someone else as long as the conversation is respectful (on both sides – I make a point to be as respectful of someone else’s faith as they are of mine.) I will NOT, however, tolerate someone trying to force me to justify my beliefs in my own home, especially if he’s insisting I must justify it by the terms of his faith (which is impossible since Christianity entirely precludes the concept of any other religion having any validity at all.)
I do find, though, that in the face-to-face world, I try to avoid getting into much discussion of religion unless I talking to someone I know is open-minded. Otherwise, it just winds up with me first having to explain what Heathenry is (which sometimes results in the assumption on the other person’s part that I’m a bit mental) and then explain why I’m not Christian. I don’t want to lie about my faith because I’m not ashamed of it, and because some of the most basic tenets of Heathenry are to be truthful, honourable and have the courage to stand up for what you believe to be right.
As far as hell goes, though, I’ve always believed – even when I was Christian – that hell wasn’t so much a place of fire and physical torment, but rather a state of being eternally separated from the Christian God, which creates the torment. Since I don’t believe in the Christian God, however, that’s not a scary idea for me. I know that when my time comes, I’ll go to be with my Gods and my ancestors and it’ll be wonderful – though for a Christian, that would be true torment. So I figure they’re right when they say I’ll go to hell – I just won’t mind it
I’m sorry, though, that what you had hoped might be a friendly chat had to get cut off like that. It always makes me sad when people close themselves off.
Anyway, I found your blog from your Twitter “friending” – looks like one I might enjoy reading! Take care
October 17, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Oh, I was not mad at all. In fact, this inspired me to write a new post — a primer on praying in public. Seeing that you are heathen, or pagan or whaterver, I think you will enjoy item #3 on the list:
The feminists are correct. God does not have a gender. The Lord Almighty looks like a Ken Doll under those robes. Should you doubt this and the Lord ever apparrates in your presence, it is not recommended that you pull up the hem and take a peek for yourself. Leave out the Father God and don’t get cute and substitute Mother God because that’s already been taken by the pagans.
have a good one!
October 17, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Marvelgoose, I just have to reply to your comment. Although it may seem I have no tolerance, I assure you I am tolerant of everyone when I leave my home and go out into the world. I do not ever ask anyone in conversation their religion, sexual preferences, their current relationship problems, and any other questions I feel are inappropriate to ask in conversation to a stranger. However, I am pleasant and enjoy the company of people no matter their unknown religion (and as I am also aware, probable their Christanity since a large portion of the country is “Christian” in some way, shape or form). However, when someone approaches me about religion, I am not tolerant of that specific thing. If I see that woman again, I will be just as pleasant as I was. I will even still like her, and I would even get together and do something with her. My point was that our conversation was uncomfortable and silenced after that. We both tried to continue, but it was uncomfortable and difficult.
I am tired of people pushing Christianity. I am completely tolerant of people being Christian or any other religion. I do not appreciate it being pushed onto others. There is a difference there.
Also, I am not uncomfortable at religious customs, again, as long as I am not expected to participate. If there is a prayer being said, I quietly watch everyone pray. I appreciate my freedom.
I find it interesting that you think I am being intolerant, however, state that you think Jehovah’s Witnesses are weird.
November 1, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Guess you are like the Blog’s title – pissed. You are happier when you are pissed. Really, you are. I think I’ll continue making you happy!
Here goes!
The next time someone pisses you off by asking you if you are a Christian, you should be thankful that they are pissing you off and fulling your constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness, uh pissyness. Your friend did you a favor!
Saying that the Jehovah’s Witnesses are weird is not intolerance. It is recognition of a fact. They are far outside the norm of Christian theology. That’s known as weird territory. To me, weird is not synonymous with bad. As a terminally weird person myself I can attest that it is fun.
Claiming yourself as a Jehovah’s Witness is not original with me. I got that from an atheist who had developed a fun way to tweak people who made the mistake of asking about his religion. Worked for him, but then not everyone can enjoy turning an awkward situation against the awkwardee.
Some get pissed and enjoy that instead.
Hope you enjoyed my post!